Repairing a Saeco coffee maker

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The video shows how to repair a Saeco Vienna coffee maker where the motor of the brew group is running to slow. It starts with opening the maschine and with …

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bardo0007 says:

I think its easier for me just to buy a new one , this is to technical for
me …..

selfadam says:

Great video! Any recommendations on how to remove and reinsert the steam
wand?

deroby says:

Thank you for such a clear explanation on how to open and check the machine!
In case someone else tumbles onto this I’ll add my experience. It seems
that my mother-in-law her machine had a similar problem. However, instead
of running very slowly it suddenly stopped running entirely. First I
assumed it was because the brewing unit got stuck (see this video: How to
Remove a Stuck Brew Unit), but after “fixing” this things still did not
budge. Opened up the machine as per your instructions and when I switch on
the machine I measure 18V between the blue and red wire but the motor does
not make a sound at all. I lifted the worm-wheel out of it’s position
assuming the gears might be stuck, but even then it did not move at all ?!
When I measure the voltage at the motor directly it shows 0V ! Turns out
the wire had ‘broken of” at the clamp, probably due to 11 years of
operation. Anyway, much easier to fix than the transistor =) For now I’ll
leave it to the 18V instead of trying my luck with replacing the
transistor. If it starts running too slow in the next years I’ll replace
the transistor anyway and maybe score even more points at the in-laws =)

Chris C says:

Thank you. I had a slow motor in the Gaggia Titanium and ordered the power
transistor TIP33C hoping this was a common issue. Inside the circuit board
was different, but I found a similar setup with a large heat sink and was
able to replace and successfully repair my machine because of your
excellent video.

With 14474 shots on the machine, the end may be near for some other part,
but for now all is good.

Alex John Man says:

My Spidem seems to have similar simptoms, I will follow your
troubleshooting video, congratulations on the details and complexity of the
job..
Q: What type of multimeter leads (clips} are you using to test the
transistor? Also, any suggestions for a good but not pricey multimeter? 

Robert Pinder says:

Wow! This tech is amazingly talented and also is a good instructor! I
wonder if he has a video for testing/replacing the frother boiler on a
Vienna Deluxe?

Roman Vallo says:

hallo, ich habe auch problem mit meine saeco odea go, da läuft kaffee
nebenbei in der dreckbehälter. kanns du uach video daszu anschauen:
http://youtu.be/qtpbMa2YVu4

irina25661 says:

No, I´’m sorry. Maybe, you’ll try it on a forum for Saeco machines

irina25661 says:

Hallo, das lässt sich nur sagen, wenn man die Maschine mal öffnet. Nach was
riecht es denn? Verbrannt? Viele Grüße, Jürgen

D Sant says:

So would you recommend replacing the circuit board or the power board?
There are two boards in my machine.

D Sant says:

Thanks for the quick reply. I think my issue is a not the brew group. When
I turn on the power button nothing moves as it used at start up. The
display first reads self check then brew unit blocked. At that point none
of the keys on key pad function. I did as you mentioned removed brew group,
bypassed it and still nothing. Same result. No movement, self check them
brew unit blocked. I also attached 33volts to the motor directly which did
get the motor and gear to move. Con’t…

irina25661 says:

Which voltage you measure at the motor during the startup with the bypassed
brewing group? When you measure practically nothing, the fault is not at
the TIP 33C more it is the input to it. Either one of the Triacs or the IC.

irina25661 says:

Before replacing something you should have a hint, what is broken. What
voltage you measure at the motor of the brewing unit during the startup.
About the second board I know no details, my model has everything on a
single board. But there are plenty of different versions of the boards.

Teressa2807 says:

Hallo, meine 13Jahre alte Saeco Magic brummt und stinkt beim Einschalten.
Lohnt sich eine Reparatur? Viele Grüße Therese

Bert Bos says:

Hallo Irina, würde Sie aber praktisch so, n-Freund… Hüte aus!!Sehr
lehrreich zu hören!!Grüße Bert

irina25661 says:

Danke! Dein Video hat uns dazu inspiriert.

hurius says:

Ihr seid ein cooles Paar!

Stefano Mollo says:

Down here in Australia when a fault like that happens, the whole board is
replaced (for 200 dollars + labor …!)

D Sant says:

This makes me think the issue lies on one the boards. I already replaced
the transistor, but that wasn’t it. I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

marc hekker says:

Do you have repair instructions for the Saeco Odea Giro Plus?

weselerlocke says:

Super Reparaturvideo! Hab die Verlinkung beim Senseo Video aktiviert!

Stefano Mollo says:

EXCELLENT VIDEO … except that I don’t speak or understand your language
…. Oh, no, ONE word I do understand … that is “KAPUT” !!!! Ok,
seriously, I did watch ALL your video and is very excellent; I have some
background in electronics and in repairing SAECOs, but a translation or
subtitles would be very very welcome!!! Is THIS kind of technical training
and troubleshooting that SAECO should provide openly, but it doesn’t.

irina25661 says:

It’s the same here in Germany. The only chance to save the machine is to do
it yourself.

Daniel De la fuente says:

Anyone having problems with the Saeco Poemia water leak? We just bought it
and the water tank looks ok, but after placing it on the machine it starts
going out. Any ideas?

Teressa2807 says:

Hallo Jürgen, beim Einschalten brummt sie durchgehend und kurz danach
stinkt es, als würde etwas (vielleicht ein Kabel?) schmoren. Viele Grüße
Therese

Trymon1980 says:

Und schon habe ich das potentielle Problem der Saeco meiner Eltern
gefunden. Sie dreht sich zwar nicht so langsam wie in dem Video, aber
langsam genug, dass das Wasser bereits anfängt zu fließen, wenn die
Brühgruppe noch gar nicht so weit ist, dass sie das Wasser aufnehmen
könnte. Den “Adapter” bewegt diese erst noch gemächlich in die Position.
Danke für das Video. Meine Eltern haben zwar ein anderes Modell, doch die
Ursache sollte in dem Fall die selbe sein.

Holger Reimer says:

Wahnsinn wie Du das erklärst!! Ok, sobald Du fachlich wirst im Bereich der
Elektronik…..hört es für mich auf!! Aber Hammervideo!!

irina25661 says:

Is the brewing group itself in order? Run the machine without brewing
group, as shown in the video. If the motor is running then normal, the
error is not in the electronics

Trymon1980 says:

Geprüft. Während blau/rot 33 Volt anliegen hat sind es bei gelb/gelb rund
81 Volt. Also eine minimal geringere Spannung, doch mir scheint ja auch,
dass der Motor nur einen Tick zu langsam ist.

Nightfly1957 says:

cool

Sascha Walther says:

Brilliantes Video, Letzte Woche hat es einen Knall gegeben, Auch ein Saeco
Vollautomat und ich vermute das es der Leistungstransistor ist.

irina25661 says:

Nein, ich bin kein Elektriker, noch bin ich Elektroniker.

MicEib says:

daumen hoch! dankeschön!

ratzevotze says:

wie doll ist das denn, was du da kannst, was ist das ? elektriker?

irina25661 says:

There are English (and Russian) subtitles on most of the videos. If you
don’t see them by default, watch the video directly at YouTube and press
the subtitle button below the video.

weselerlocke says:

Und mittlerweile auch mit Untertiteln in 2 Sprachen, echt top! Ich hab
momentan leider sehr wenig Zeit, deshalb war mein Video auch mit der heißen
Nadel gestrickt. Ich baue zur Zeit und ziehe erst zum Sommer/Herbst dieses
Jahres ein und habe danach erst wieder Zeit und wollte dann ein neues,
optimiertes und besseres Video machen, ebenfalls mit Untertiteln und mich
dann auch mehr als nur der Senseo widmen!

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